CharlieGolf - Everyone knows its not the fall that hurts you.
mbga9pgf - I, like many, don't have any real hard feelings about The Reds one way or the other. Lots of people get huge amounts of enjoyment out of watching them and that's good enough for me. However, I'm of the mind that its the ABSENCE of the noise of military grade jet engines that's the sound of freedom.
Then again, its really down to how you define freedom now isn't it.
