Brakes..beer, sorry my reply is a bit down the line. To be honest I don't know, at the moment I'm on cityflyer t&c working quite hard but when we go on the hourly rate I don't know what it'll look like because we'll be moving onto the bidding system. Depending on whether I do tours or not would make a difference. At the moment there is crew on cityflyer t & c do 10 hour days with four sectors for under £15 duty pay, it's no wonder BA passed stuff over to us for a while.