great post bizzi but i guess as nic from mel puts it we should look for a full time job with another airline then when a problem of federal award level proportions happens we should then look for a full time job at another airline then if a problem with our conditions cramp our style we should look for a job at another airline. but we shouldnt even be here because as galley hag says "never stict his head out for a mam casual".good one, so positive.......if only thier powers were to be used for good then maybe things would be better and casual employment would not continue to denude the conditions of full time employees.