Had a crewman once who took a birdstrike to the helmet whilst looking out the side of the aircraft in an attempt to see the bird we were trying to avoid!! He saw it alright! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> . .. .My experience has been that gritting your teeth and staying on course is a good safe bet because birds tend to be far more adept at evasive manoeuvres than us - and then I dont have to get in a guessing game with them about which way to swerve! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> . .. .I thought cows tend to stay nose into wind in warm weather to increase ventilation, crosswind in temperate conditions to reduce the possibilities of re injestion of either burps or farts, and arse into wind in cold weather to enjoy the warmth of their excrement. And dont they lie down before the rain? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />