HP - are you suggesting that I should have no opinion because I have not "gone for a trip" with them? One does not need to do that to experience the Reds in this part of the world. They are superb aerobatic pilots, the Red Arrows team are superb ambassadors of UK plc and for the RAF. No one can deny that but please let us all remember they are not gods, they can and do make errors of judgement. They do nothing other than practice the routines and are paid so to do and paid as professional pilots so they need to be very professional and usually are.