Mini - Agree with your points but have to add that captains salary is not OK for the same reasons the F/O salary isn't. They are both affected by local inflation and continue to lag behind 'equivilent' carriers... obviously not the ones looked at in the recent 'remuneration survey'. Getting into the LHS doesn't solve the long term financial issues. What it does do is consolidate command hours on 'demand' types with the view of leaving to get a job which can offer some longer term stability.
Sanddancer make the excellent point that currently pay fails to provide adequately for the present, let alone the future.
Uplink - perhaps you are right. However you say that in the scheme of things not much is going to change BUT it already has fundamentally as the traditional catchment for pilots has changed to the areas you mentioned. DECs have changed things, management attitude has changed things, T&Cs are changing things.
The face of EK is changing and it will take some excellent management to get it back on track and heading in the right direction...that's the worrying bit.
Last edited by Shake; 31st May 2005 at 17:22.