Bus429 - I know John Goglia well and he is a great protagonist of the human centred approach to flight safety, particularly within the critical area of aircraft maintenance. Clearly commercial realities affect all companies, including airlines, and influence the decisions and actions taken. However failure to manage risk exposures effectively, such as in the cases of Barings Bank, Kings Cross, Herald of Free Enterprise, Southall, Hatfield, and most recently Independent Insurance Company can have an even bigger impact. In the cases of Barings and Independent the companies paid the ultimate price for failure to manage risk and they no longer exist. All stock market listed companies are now required to demonstrate compliance with the requirements of the Turnbull Committee which made recommendations following the Barings collapse. These requirements in simple terms stipulate that Boards of Directors of companies must apply proper corporate control systems for reducing risks and managing safety in the same way that they control budgets/finance or anything else for that matter. The intention of Turnbull's recommendations is to ensure that operational risks are regularly and properly reviewed at Board level so that decisions which can ultimately affect safety are not merely taken on the grounds of short term commercial considerations. It is only a matter of time before all corporate bodies will have to start placing much greater emphasis on competent safety management from the Board level down.