If I was up because you were down there......I have been up there because your down there
WTF....?????
Hey it's interesting how
CUR takes a characteristic shot at pilots then, despite the thread actually turning into a productive exchange (or maybe because of it) she doesn't return to take part in the discussion.
When I was in the RAAF, the studs gradually picked up from the instructors a disdain for ATC, mainly civvy, which our instructors had picked up, themselves in turn, when students years before. It wasn't actively encouraged but it sure wasn't
discouraged.
We didn't know why, we just noticed it, and being young, impressionable and pilots, not to mention cool and good-looking, we thought it was funny and carried it on.
Dunno what it's like these days in the RAAF but the relationship is a lot better outside in the civvy world.
A bit of extra info, when time is available, goes a long way to developing SA, as already mentioned. Even the best ATC occasionally make mistakes and it isn't unheard of for a pilot to point it out.
Just because pilots ask for the info doesn't mean ATCOs should develop an obsession with trying to put them off asking, like
CUR obviously has. It's like a pilot saying:
"Require HDG ###" and adding: "for weather 1-0 ahead."
Usually the guy's gonna turn anyway and the ATCO might just think to himself, "Hmmm. If there's weather there, maybe I should vector the next tool around it, too."
What's the prob..............
I like ATCOs because they are pseudo-sharps who are generally fatter than pilots, can afford to buy more beer than engos and don't provide real competition for the moisties at our parties.
I even like you,
CUR, and you too,
Jizzmacho!