After reading the last couple of posts, I realize most of us are all saying the same thing. A nice last post too speed alt*. I understand better now that you guys are also frustrated. It makes it clear to me why we all air concerns here. I think we all do want to be part of a great organization, and I think most would rather not have to choose to vote with their feet. Unfortunately, we all have different tolerance levels and the treatment by the senior management is causing people to exceed those tolerance levels, and hence resign. I hope some of those managers read these last few posts and absorb this. We would rather stay and make things better than just walk away pissed off. EK has recruited an excellent group of pilots, and part of being an excellent pilot is to voice concern when we see problems approaching, rather than waiting for the problem to reach critical mass. That is not whinging.