harrier46....all companies succeed or don't on the backs of thier employees under the leadership of senior employees....when "managers" loose sight of this, they become just that...managers instead of leaders, and the whole organization suffers....a company without leaders becomes disorganized..a company without employees becomes non existant....an airline might not owe a pilot a job, but it's very existence to the pilots, and all other employee groups....keep that in mind...