Would agree with some of your points niedin. However, my main point on both WAT and GWY is that the product is direct access. No need to drive to and from CRK for WAT pax which is about an hour and no need to drive to SNN or EIKN for GWY pax, which in both instances is a two hour drive. Low cost competition has always been a factor for RE on LTN ops, just because a loco war is about to start in my view will only marginally impact on both. And as it has been capacity constrained this will equal out. My point again.....there is a sufficient volumn of pax who wish to purchase direct access and are preapred to pay over and above to sustain and grow these two routes. Finally, how long will the locos continue to over supply seats....not too long I feel!