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posted 22nd December 2004 23:14
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By the same token however, all this bleating on about being moved to another country is stretching it a bit far in my humble opinion. The last time I checked we were part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain (England, Scotland & Wales) and Northern Ireland. ie we're all part of the same place. Certainly my passport is a British one not an English one. Likewise my wife's is a British passport not a Scottish one. Yes a couple of things are done a bit differently north of the border. The law is a bit different for all the english solicitors out there. But is a conversion course not out of the question? GCSEs and A-Levels have a different name and to be honest judging by the way the English school system is going, I think I will prefer my kids to do Standard Grades and Highers anyway. They also have (heaven forbid!!) different pictures on their banknotes!! What would have happened if everyone who is currently at Manchester had been posted to Prestwick to begin with instead? Would they have stamped their feet and refused to have gone then? Unfortunately the nature of the job means that theoretically you can be moved around wherever and whenever the company sees fit (mobile grade and all that) whether you guys like it or not......hate to play at devils advocate but we all signed the piece of paper when we signed up. I wonder how many of you refused to sign that before you joined NATS? I'd take a guess at none......"
Excellent post Vamp, however you then go and spoil it with what follows...............................
"Having said all that, to all the Swanwick people with little or no sympathy with your Manchester COLLEAGUES, you guys have had it extremely easy by comparison. Don't try and kid anyone that if the shoe was on the other foot you lot would happily go 250 miles north. We all know you wouldn't. And yes we all know you had to move from west drayton to swanwick, a distance of what? 80miles give or take? I bet a healthy proportion (by healthy I would say 25-30%) of you didn't have to move house, have spouses and partners move jobs, move kids from school etc etc. Certainly not the 100% of staff who are affected by Manchester's move to Prestwick.........."
ermmmmmmmmm 25-30 per cent is well out, the majority had to move house(have you ever tried going down/up the M3 during rush hour, I agree some people didnt move (person preference) but the majority did, personally my other half gave up a lot with her employer to move, with a significant reduction in pay and terms, but hey it was worth it, and you are correct, it may only be 80 miles or so, but how many people do you know were transferred to West Drayton actually wanted to be posted there in the first place..................not many..................in my experiance and despite reservations , I really do think the move "south" did not have as an adverse an effect as many would believe( and no I'm certainly not from this part of Britain!!!!). I bet that in 2-4 years time the guys/girls at MACC with reservations about moving north , would not feel as resentful as they do.
Like you said "Unfortunately the nature of the job means that theoretically you can be moved around wherever and whenever the company sees fit (mobile grade and all that) whether you guys like it or not......"
Exactly...................................
One final issue, i'm still unsure why an ATCO at Farnborough or Cardiff shold be concerned about the "shutting down Manchester" (sensationalism at its best!!!!!!!!!!!!!).
How has it been shut down??????????????
Edited many a time due spelling/grammer.........but it is nearly Christmas and errrrrrrrrrrrrmm yes I've been drinking
Last edited by ahhhb0ll0x; 24th December 2004 at 01:16.