Mr Geezer,
Couldn't agree with you more.I give QNH on start and then ATC clearance on start of taxi.Most a/c copy it then and then get on with checks and departure briefing etc.But you won't heard that too often at ABZ,as I work with 3 other watches and I'm the only one that works that way..Just found it more logical and certainly helps keep ahead on the occasions it gets busy.
The Part2 says that the ATIS isn't to be used as a Departure ATIS ?? !! although there is a separate freq for that purpose.But if there is runway surface details on that then you need that for taking off,especially in snow and ice.
We confirm inbound a/c to copy the ATIS so why not outbounds?