411A, I am now not sure if you are serious or just fishing for someone to bite. If it is fishing then... oooops, I bit! If not you should look in the mirror sir....... I hope and pray that I never EVER fly with someone FJ, Slow Jet or even glider who has an attitude like yours. Always Broken In Wilts is an old crewmate of mine and he has much better phrases to describe bigoted people like yourself. EVERYONE is an individual, there are to**ers in all walks of aviation. I have met the most obnoxious FJ pilots but I have met aN EQUAL NUMBER of obnoxious 'other' pilots. Hang your head in shame.......