Just to add to the discussion, from the 5th August the new speed profiling trials will be in effect for south bound departures from MAN & LPL.
Below is an extract from NATS advice
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Procedure
The following departure speed profiling procedures shall apply to all departures from Manchester (EGCC) and Liverpool (EGGP) airports when using HON,LISTO and NANTI SIDs. In addition flights can expect to be position tactically in a systemised manner.
Manchester (EGCC): HONILEY 1R , 1Y… LISTO 1R , 1S , 1Y , 1Z
Liverpool (EGGP) NANTI 2T , 2V
Pilots shall fly the following speed profiling as per aircraft groupings:
GROUP 1 Jet aircraft above 35000 kg
( except those listed below )
250 Kts IAS until FL100
280 – 290Kts IAS until FL260
GROUP 2 Non jet and jet aircraft up to 35000 kg &
BA46, RJ series, E135/145, CRJ series etc.
note - full list AIP AD EGCC -6-5
240-250kts until FL260
Note - Pilots SHALL inform ATC prior to departure if they
cannot comply with the above speed profiles.
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Glad to see they gave the old 146 a bit of help!
