Beagle,
It has been good to read a thread that throws up a real argument regarding the training of today vs yesteryear but I feel some of the ultra negative feedback you have received may be in part due to your slightly abrupt opener on this thread. Ostricising those currently in/around the training system with a comment like "can't find their arseholes without a mirror" is at best mildly amusing banter but at worst it triggers anger and lack of respect towards those 'Old Crusties' who although attempting to instill the tactics and discipline of a past era are thwarted by a display of mild ignorance. I do note you are a veteran of this site but manners cost nothing Sir. Also goes to those who snapped back.. shame on you!