Let's not forget that there's already a successful heli training operation operating out of Booker (Helicopter Services) that was 'born' out of one of the changes to which the thread earlier refers. And, they are a great operation, great team with loads of experience, were fantastic to learn with and seem to have got the right formula - maybe therefore it just that the competition is too stiff at Booker to support two heli training operations? Speaking also of the money to be made out of aviation, someone told me that the only way to become a millionaire through aviation was to be a multi-millionaire before you started! :-)