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Old 21st April 2004 | 22:52
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Mike Cross
 
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Spot on David

Rod Bailes-Brown and I were at AIS Heathrow yesterday representing the PFA and AOPA respectively with AUS in attendance.

I had prepared a few examples of this kind of thing for their edification and there was some fairly frantic writing going on.

They are taking notice and were fairly gobsmacked at the scale of the problems. I think we will see action. It's down to the originators for not wording it correctly and to AIS for not educating their originators better. However as much of it originates from their bosses in the CAA we can't blame it all on AIS.

Here's a few more

Where's this?
AGA : FROM 04/04/01 12:59 TO PERM L1109/04
E)COLDHARBOUR FARM MICROLIGHT SITE WITHDRAWN ENR 5-5-4-1 REFERS
No co-ordinates so the user is expected to consult the AIP.

EGNS
RAC : FROM 04/03/30 13:21 TO 04/06/01 05:45 C1109/04
E)SRA FOR RWY 03 NOT AVBL

Appears in an area brief althought it concerns an approach aid.

Here's a better one
EGVA
RAC : FROM 04/02/19 07:30 TO 04/08/27 22:00 B0063/04
E)FAIRFORD MATZ ACTIVE
Names the aerodrome and it's outside the ATZ so should be in the area brief.


EGJJ
RAC : FROM 04/04/01 11:02 TO 04/09/01 12:00 EST C1161/04
E)THE ATTENTION OF PILOTS FLYING SVFR INTO AND OUT THE C.I. CTR IS DRAWN TO THE TEMPORARY PROHIBITED AREAS CREATED AROUND CAP DE LA HAGUE AND CAP DE FLAMANVILLE VRPS (EGJJ AD2-EGJJ-1-11 REFERS). DETAILS ARE IN OTHER UK AND FRENCH NOTAM.

“DETAILS ARE IN OTHER UK AND FRENCH NOTAM.” So why are they repeated in this one?


EGTT EGPX
OTH : FROM 03/01/17 15:17 TO PERM B0148/03
E)FREQ 123.45MHZ NOT TO BE USED AS AN AIR TO AIR COMM CHANNEL WITHIN
RANGE OF ANY VHF GROUND STATION IN UK FIRS

This one's been going since January last year. Is it really necessary to repeat it in every brief? It also falls outside the ICAO definition of what constitutes a NOTAM so shouldn't be there for that reason as well.


ICAO defines a PIB as a recapitulation in PLAIN LANGUAGE, I don't think this would win a plain language award.
EGTT
COM : FROM 03/12/01 08:00 TO PERM U1444/03
E) THE FOLLOWING STCICS GUARD FREQUENCIES AND BROADCASTS WILL BE
OPERATIONAL
FOXTROT SIERRA 4742KHZ, ALPHA LIMA 5702KHZ
DELTA WHISKY 9031KHZ, HOTEL WHISKEY 11247KHZ
FOXTROT 13257KHZ, BRAVO ECHO 18018KHZ
FS, AL, DW, AND HW DUAL MONITORED
H+00 QNH AL, DW, HW, BE
H+30 AFCS AL,DW,HW,BE
MPA BROADCAST FS, DW

Mike
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