Originally Posted by
a320flapoperator
'Mate', you can hit Caps Lock on 'EXPERIENCED FIRST OFFICER' all you want, but the reality is you are a 32-year-old 737 FO. You do not have an A320 rating. To the company, that means you are a raw financial investment who needs to be trained from scratch on this jet, regardless of what you flew before.
Let’s do a proper reality check on your Ryanair (did I spell it right for you this time?) comparison. Yes, guys drop €30k there. But what you conveniently left out is that the job is only guaranteed after you pass the Type Rating. At Air Astana, you have a job guarantee on Day 1. You get sent to Toulouse for a month for the TR, the airline pays for it entirely, and you are collecting your salary plus roughly €70 a day net in per diems the whole time. That €12.5k is a refundable deposit. It is a retention mechanic for an expat market, not a low-cost carrier cash grab.
You claim you're perfectly fine with being bonded at Wizzair or Jet2 as long as there's no upfront deposit. But let's look at your actual situation. You are currently flying the 737 at a European LCC and throwing applications at anyone who will listen.
Let's call a spade a spade: your real issue isn't the 'principle' of the bond. It’s just that you don't actually have the €12,500 cash to put down. Dressing up an empty bank account as a moral crusade against an airline's 'conditions' is just embarrassing. Especially when you look at the math. The net salary here clears €5,000+ after taxes. You effectively offset the value of that refundable deposit in your first two and a half months. Good luck finding that kind of net income at the European carriers you keep quoting.
Nobody here is a 'defensive entity.' But honestly, seeing how quickly you have a multi-paragraph meltdown over a refundable deposit, which perfectly matches your public crying session over your UPRT training delays. I can only imagine how you handle an actual stressful situation on the flight deck.
i had to log in so I could only say:
”damn…”