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Old 6th October 2025 | 13:33
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Prometheus737
 
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From: Birmimgham
Originally Posted by VariablePitchP
What’s it got to do with the regulators?

Ryanair offer a salary. Pilot with zero hours and desperate for a job looks at advertised salary and decides it is acceptable, so accepts the job.

The reason McDonald’s pay minimum wage is the same, people are happy to accept it. If they weren’t they wouldn’t. It’s really that simple.

Sorry I have to disagree you’re equating a McDonald’s Worker to being the same as a highly qualified individual in a safety critical industry. Yes the people may accept it… that is clear for all to see… the question really is why are regulators allowing it and how is it possible it’s got this far.

We can’t even remotely equate it to a McDonald’s worker as they don’t even have to outlay any costs for the job and then when they start the job they are guaranteed the minimum wage.

Forcing pilots to pay for operator required training so anything past CPL / APS MCC (disguised or not) is an illegal deduction and likely results in pay to fly, which is indentured servitude by another name never mind debt bondage.

Minimising this whole issue is part of the problem, I was glad to see the guardian have recently picked up on the Ghent study where you can see how this erodes flight safety and just culture.

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2...es-study-warns

https://www.theguardian.com/business...ur-experiences

This issue is a root cause of the smaller issues seen across these forums. Surely the regulators should be forced to act rather than the community aiding them in ignoring it and having the attitude… “it’s becuase people accept it” a corporation has far more power than any single person who falls foul of the trap the corporation has created. Isn’t aiding them essentially victim blaming while helping the company erode Ts&Cs until there is nothing left?

Sorry I get quite passionate about this, I can’t stand injustice and whenever i read about it I get a bug in my bonnet.
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