Ah, the usual "backward smallminded screwed up NZers" mentality. Would have thought a lot depends on the student and their attitude and ability which pretty much goes for flight training anywhere. AFS churn out CPLs, you telling me there aren't a few muppets there too? So a few at Massey aspire to jets early on, so what. Plenty of new CPLs in the rest of the world don't go through the equivalent f**ked up GA/Regional circus that is NZ, they go straight in RHS 737 and are the better for it.