Originally Posted by
gretzky99
It's a symptom of a system operating beyond its capacity.
The fact that this sort of procedure is so normalised that many crew don’t even see this as a threat is quite telling about the safety culture within the US aviation sector. Someone above mentioned that night circling approaches are not approved in many company Ops Manuals, so ATC issue late visual approaches instead, as a means to work around this limitation. This should be ringing alarm bells to all.
This sort of thing wouldn’t even be attempted in most parts of the world, let alone allowed to become normal sop.
Exactly.
Plus the often aggressive and intimidating tone from US ATC, and their habit of simply talking faster and saying everything multiple times (eg say again), has persuaded pilots and controllers that they are "making it work"
Whereas it's a classic example of Normalisation of Deviance