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Old 17th November 2024 | 08:51
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Originally Posted by Denti
Paris is a pretty bad example. Just following your standard SID clearance can and will put you in a loss of separation situation, as will the subsequent vectors by ATC. Had it several times this year alone. Quite inept ATC in that area, just topped by spanish ATCOs (who do not even know what PAN is).

In the real world i would agree, just call MAYDAY and switch TCAS to TA only ASAP.
To be honest I have never had any issues in over 30 years with either French or Spanish ATC. Actually I would say with 90% of the worldwide ATC... as long as we both clarify what do we want from each other.
The only issues I have experienced, say for example in Paris TMA, were related to other traffic on departure being unable to accelerate to 300 kt below FL100 "due to company restrictions" or being at Vtgt/Vref at 8NM from touchdown whilst being cleared to 160kt till 4NM "due to company restrictions". Again it is all a matter of being clear with what we can or cannot do and letting other parties know about it in advance.
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