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Old 10th October 2024 | 18:17
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Gordy
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From: Redding CA, or on a fire somewhere
Originally Posted by rudestuff
Ok I'll be honest, I worded that intentionally to be a trap...😜

I'll see your 61.109 and raise you 61.63(c)(3)

If you wanted a PPL (or CPL) on the cheap you could first get the certificate in a Gyro. Then as an additional class (your second rotorcraft) there are zero minimums, zero solo, zero PIC - just train to proficiency.
Ahhh ifen only it was that easy....... You still need to get the initial certificate in the Rotorcraft Gyroplane before you add the helicopter. So you need 40 hours in the Gyro first....good luck finding an instructor: What am I missing?



(d) For a gyroplane rating. Except as provided in paragraph (k) of this section, a person who applies for a private pilot certificate with rotorcraft category and gyroplane class rating must log at least 40 hours of flight time that includes at least 20 hours of flight training from an authorized instructor and 10 hours of solo flight training in the areas of operation listed in § 61.107(b)(4) of this part, and the training must include at least -

(1) 3 hours of cross-country flight training in a gyroplane;

(2) Except as provided in § 61.110 of this part, 3 hours of night flight training in a gyroplane that includes -

(i) One cross-country flight of over 50 nautical miles total distance; and

(ii) 10 takeoffs and 10 landings to a full stop (with each landing involving a flight in the traffic pattern) at an airport.

(3) 3 hours of flight training with an authorized instructor in a gyroplane in preparation for the practical test, which must have been performed within the preceding 2 calendar months from the month of the test; and

(4) 10 hours of solo flight time in a gyroplane, consisting of at least -

(i) 3 hours of cross-country time;

(ii) One solo cross country flight of 100 nautical miles total distance, with landings at three points, and one segment of the flight being a straight-line distance of more than 25 nautical miles between the takeoff and landing locations; and

(iii) Three takeoffs and three landings to a full stop (with each landing involving a flight in the traffic pattern) at an airport with an operating control tower.
Maybe you were looking at the "sport pilot" route which can be done in less hours...however:

https://drs.faa.gov/browse/excelExte...70065B69C.0001
TITLE: Is my sport pilot certificate issued with aircraft category and class ratings?

SECTION RULE:[Your sport pilot certificate does not list aircraft category and class ratings. When you successfully pass the practical test for a sport pilot certificate, regardless of the light- sport aircraft privileges you seek, the FAA will issue you a sport pilot certificate without any category and class ratings. The FAA will provide you with a logbook endorsement for the category and class of aircraft in which you are authorized to act as pilot in command. ]
​​​​​​​So no good in this scenario

Last edited by Gordy; 10th October 2024 at 18:24. Reason: added info
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