Originally Posted by
meleagertoo
Cannot recall cringe RT on that level from pilots in Eu ever except for perhaps poor ability in spoken English (and most of that is from non-Eu pilots) which is more or less forgiveable, as opposed to wilfully talking childish yee-haar scribble like 'Roll the trucks'.
In UK eryone would know what "Winkle out the Trumpton" means - but that's no reason for 'professional' pilots to be using it on TR, is it???
It's an exact comparison...
There may not be an ICAO OK phrase to specifiacally call the fire service, buit "MAYDAY FIRE" works the world over except in the strange places where you'd be subjected to a barrage of queries about whether you're declaring and emergency (!!!), what the nature of the problem is, how many pob, how much fuel in pounds...
"Request fire service" should have the same effect. If only.
I wasn't talking about cringe, just the fact that on the various emergencies I have had in the last 25 years of flying they were handled vastly better in the US than the EU, just no comparison. Maybe the UK is above reproach, but so is Delaware...... If you say "MAYDAY" in the US every controller knows you are declaring an emergency, no need to clarify. Declared 7 emergencies in the US of the top of my head, all were zero pressure from ATC "when able state nature of emergency, POB/FOB", say "STANDBY", no further questions. And I absolutely have zero patience for the poor level of English spoken on the frequency all over south and east EU. I did ATC in France in French, in Spain in Spanish, because some of those fields would not have ATC that spoke English (neither my native language, and English isn't it either). There is just no excuse for ATC/pilots not being fluent in English today. So yeah, spare me....
also there is an option to delete posts, you know, just in case you reply 3 times.....