Originally Posted by
continue#1
Originally Posted by
AviatorPac
It's actually a real shame because the prop fleet is actually an awesome job. If they came to the table and paid significantly more people wouldn't be feeling the need to head abroad or be so pushed to take a base where they have no association just to get on the RPPP list. Adding to this is the growing discontent with blended pay and the fact that people who are joining are years away from being eligible for a command based on their hours (not a poor relection on them at all just fact).
Can you clarify what you mean by this, and maybe give some examples?
I mean It does actually take a few years to get the experience and exposure for a command
flying around Enzed. 👍🏽
People taking bases where they have no association? I assume they're talking about just taking whatever command comes up (even if out of their preferred/current base) so they can start accruing their 12 months of command ASAP which means they are eligible to bid via RPPP.
Blended pay? "New" ATR pilots (join date on/after 3 OCT 2019) not getting paid as much as ATR pilots on the grandfathered pay scale. The difference is not insignificant. It was an effective pay rise for all Q300 pilots, so not as much chatter about it there. Ideally, the company would have just pulled all pilots up to the grandfathered scale when the TP CA was negotiated, but the company claimed they couldn't afford it. They kind of got a "free pass" on this issue in 2022, but it will be interesting to see how hard, if at all, the unions push for it next round (1 OCT 2025).
If you're talking about the people being years away from being eligible for a command... it's simple math. They've hired a lot of FOs in the 500-700hr TT region. They're getting like 300-400hrs of flying a year. If they're lucky! Some are getting less. Training is taking up a lot of the FO flying (both new FOs line training, and Training Captains in RHS during CMD training).
Given that SIC time is halved when counting for ATPL minimum requirements, (and command practice can now only be counted while PF), even getting to the ATPL minimums, let alone the company CMD minimums, is going to take a while for a lot of these new FOs.