Good point Raven. The traveling public of HK (and our outports) are effectively being put at risk to a far higher degree than would be allowed in the US. We have inexperienced children in control (when the relief captain goes to the restroom) of a large airliner. The HK traveling public has no idea of the reality of their peril. Our management is complicit in this, and will be held accountable when the inevitable tragedy occurs. CX management is beyond redemption. They are willing to line their own pockets at the expense of the passengers they are supposed to protect. Disgusting