Thanks for that, Lookleft. My use of the word "probably" was evidently not sufficient to make clear to you that I was not making a categorical assertion and the reference to MLW was evidently lost on you as an ironic link to the OP's reference to CAR 235 and landing overweight. Good to see I'm still living rent free in your head, though. BTW: You do know the aircraft's fuel state on ditching is in the NTSB's report, don't you?