It seems 'odd' to mean that my rumour post was deemed to be disrespectful. As my subsequent posts demonstrated that was not my intention; but I guess not made clear enough until 'NLH' accused me of speaking ill of the dead. In my time in the RAN FAA - some fifty years ago now - aircrew spoke directly and no one took offence when it was about safety and flying. I would not know what a loadmaster does in a TAIPAN. It seems to me for whatever reason the helo hit the water fast & hard as demonstrated by the wreckage. Fact checking rumours is not what I do; however I will 'wirebrush' the originator. As for 'that hole'. Cor Blimey. We type on a keyboard looking at a screen (I don't have or use a mobile phone) that is all.