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Old 27th Jun 2023, 10:06
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Abbey Road
 
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Originally Posted by Aidan Monaghan
Which designation is correct (or most correct) - Shallow or Medium?
In the Royal Air Force, instructing at the ab-intio level on the Bulldog T1 aircraft, 30° angle of bank was considered 'medium', or perhaps the lower end of medium. I would certainly consider 20° AoB as shallow.

Originally Posted by Aidan Monaghan
... yet Shallow turns require continuous aileron inputs and Medium turns require neutral aileron.
That sounds a bit odd to me! All turns are likely to require some variation of aileron inputs, however small, to maintain a particular angle of bank. However, you may find yourself thinking more about the elevator backpressure required to remain level in a turn, as the AoB increases - increasing AoB means increasing elevator backpressure.

But a bald statement that "Medium turns require neutral aileron" is nonsense, or a misunderstood over-simplification. 🫤

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