So over the road at QF, they have just had 2017 joiners awarded wide body FO slots. They have also had 2022 joiners awarded any narrow body base they want. There is progression and opportunity out there at every airline in Aus except for VA. The mind boggles why anyone would want to join VA at this point. It's only suitable if you want to be a career FO out of Sydney or Melbourne on a 737, working your ring off for just above award pay.