Virgin was a case of the employees making it what it was, the staff there were great, unfortunately incompetent imbeciles running it into the ground. I doubt they will ever cross the pacific again, it's a pity but it's too late for them. The US airlines will smash it from here. When I travelled to the states before you know what I would first go to the virgin website, then qantas. Now, it's United first, ANZ second, then looking at going the long way through Asia.