Originally Posted by
melmothtw
Do we get a say when UK troops are removed from national control and handed over to the UN? Again, what the EU chooses to do is the business solely of the EU. It doesnt concern us anymore.
This is a discussion about an EU army, I did not mention the UK because as you observe, it is no longer the UK's direct concern. Your example of the UN is meaningless, since whilst any forces assigned to such duties are under the temporary operational control of the UN, they remain fully part of their own nation's armed forces. The same is true of national forces taking part in NATO operations and exercises. The alleged plan to permanently and irrevocably transfer control of the separate national forces of EU nations into a single force under the sole control of the EU, such that it would then be impossible for member countries to use their forces unilaterally in their own interests is something entirely different. It constitutes a very major change in the status of the nations concerned, something not mentioned in any existing EU Treaty, and surely deserving of a democratic mandate.