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Old 4th Mar 2023, 07:55
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parkfell

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Originally Posted by Yo_You_Not_You_you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ppo73zeAvDo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIlO-TBDyaw

Two Excellent Video Analysis , Summing Up Everything we Know so far .
Another “unbelievable” accident occurred to PIA8303 at Karachi in May 2021 when an Airbus 320 was operated in such a way that the aircraft system designers simply hadn’t contemplated would be possible.


Originally Posted by ATC Watcher
Thanks for those videaos YouX4 , good resume of the possibilities, . Very sad to see on the first video, that when the PF realized lost power they were in fact on short final for the old airport and could probably have made it had they reacted faster.
That thought reminded me of the Airbus320 landing in the Hudson & the time taken to react having lowered the nose to protect the speed; then think about options was in the region of 30 seconds.
When the NTSB carried out simulator flights (knowing that the loss of thrust was about to happen) it took I think 17 attempts to successfully dead stick the ac back to the departure airfield.

The presence of mind required to go for an unplanned ‘plan B’ for YETI 691 & instantaneously go for the old airfield would require exceptional situational awareness. So unless this extremely remote scenario had been discussed between the crew, I think it would have been a non starter.
A good spot though and worthy of some discussion.

It reminds me of Neil Williams who suffered a structural failure shortly after take off, and prevented disaster by inverting the ac immediately. He later said that he had already thought about it the day before, and what action he would take.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing…
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