@ATC Watcher
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Too many pilots will operate a control be it flaps or gear without actually checking what they have their hand on. Many times an Airbus has landed with the park brake on when the crew thought they had selected the flaps.
Surely you mean the speed brakes, not the parking brake . because seen the position , the form of the knob and the mechanism to activate ( turn instead of up/down movement) I would find this highly improbable. But Ok there might be a first in everything.
@ Michaelbinary :
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For 2 pilots, both captains, to have made such stupid and elmentary errors and then not recognise the results of their actions and cause a perfectly servicable aircraft to crash is unforgivable.
Enough of people saying they were tired, or fatigued or stressed, flying the bloody plane was their job and between them they screwed up.
Before hanging up high the pilots here 2 facts to remember:
1- The prelim report said the props were feathered nothing else, what you say is probable but is still a speculation . Remember there are families and friends behind those pilots that may read or shown messages like yours .
2- Nobody here said they were tired , fatigued or stressed. We did ( I was one of the first) raised the issue as one of the possible contributing causes, but only the report will establish if it played a role here.
Apportioning blame should not be part of any aviation investigation , which is basically what you just did , and worse not knowing all the facts
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Look at it from the reverse perspective...
On each and every flight, pilots make hundreds or even thousands of safe and correct selections and decisions that prevent a catastrophe and crash killing everybody.
This has to be performed to 100% on each and every flight to be a safe sector without hull loss.
It is only when one of these things is screwed up that an accident ensues...