Thanks for the heads up, never realized the launch was from Camphill When I was in intensive care in Sheffield the guy in the next bed was Derbyshire Gliding Clubs CFI who'd failed to follow one of his own cardinal rules. 'Don't' turn back if caught in sink on the western side of the hill, land out if you can't find a thermal'. He tried and hit one of the many dry stone walls.. One of the nurses thought it funny that they'd got two glider pilots in the same bay. I walked out, sadly he didn't.