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Old 3rd February 2023 | 09:00
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aox
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Originally Posted by grizzled
This was published yesterday in Nepal. It's from a document the investigative team sent to the regulator. The contents seem to indicate that the panel have already gleaned some initial info from the CVR and FDR, as well as perhaps from training records, maintenance records and crew duty records. Make of it what you will. Certainly some of the recommendations are problematic for Nepal.


Originally Posted by parkfell
Item (1) & (2) Fairly standard stuff, avoiding split @rse turns onto final. Full IFR procedures with no visual approaches.

Item (3) Who will examine the TREs? A non company examiner would increase confidence. Regulator involvement.

Items (4) & (5) are very revealing. It would be interesting to know what ‘augmented’ element had been approved. What risk assessments had been carried out & the pressure applied to the regulator to approve it?

Item (5) : I assume this means the same flight crew, alternating PF & PM, for an eight sector day not exceeding 8 hour flight duty period?

Clearly tightening up, attempting to mitigate the known Threats/Errors.
The FDR/CVR will be rich in CRM training material for others to learn from this tragic accident
About 4 and 5:

The accident happens before midday local time

Flightradar shows another aircraft in the fleet regularly doing 4 flights a day, each under an hour long (18 to 54 minutes), about 17.5 hours in a week, albeit sometimes later than scheduled, which might stretch scheduled start to actual finish times, but even so doesn't seem excessive

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...n-amz#2ed30fdb

So perhaps as someone suggests above, the recommendations may seem more generalised rather than from specific information emerging from this event.

Edit: unless this represents changes after the recommendation (which would thus have to be at least a week old). I think I remember that the accident may have been on the third arrival at Pokhara that day. Does anyone have a Flightradar subscription that can go back more than 7 days?

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