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Old 29th Oct 2022, 01:16
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Originally Posted by ManillaChillaDilla
Considering there has been no pay rises for at least 4 years, in theory you could use 12% loss incurred plus that little thing about not being payed at all for 2 years.

That being the case, its easily argued that the current offer is really where we should have been as a starting point for negotiations for the current EA.

To bring the pilot group up to a realistic point of pay ( given the other conditions involved or lack thereof ) about another 10 to 15% would be reasonable. On top of what has been " negotiated ".

I guess the " special guests " at the roadshows can explain why we arent worth what others in the industry are.

Should be VERY interesting indeed.

MCD
Yeah, we knocked 3% pay increases back in 2019 and took PIA remember.

And to address the “special guests can explain why we aren’t worth what others in the industry are” typically idiotic statement: By my calculations, and to compare apples with apples, let’s focus on Australian jet high capacity operations:

You will be paid significantly more than:
1. National Jet System Pilots (B717 soon A220)
2. Network Aviation Pilots (F100 and A320)
4. Rex Pilots (B737)
5. Alliance Pilots (F70/100 and E190)
6. Cobham Pilots (E190)
7. Airnorth Pilots (E170/E190)
8. Express Freighters Pilots (B737/A321)
9. Virgin Australia Regional Pilots (F100/A320)
9. And arguably Virgin Australia Pilots (B737)

We did once compare ourselves to Tigerair when they received a 16% uplift, inconveniently they went broke. Then we tried Virgin, inconveniently they went broke and got rescued. So now we focus on the national carrier, because that’s all that’s left that’s perceived as getting something better than us?

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