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Old 21st Oct 2022, 06:38
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Keith Myath
 
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Originally Posted by Lookleft
The Perth base was closed during the Covid opportunity and government cash grab. Those who were left to commute are a big part of the AFAP negotiating team. So no surprises that they are making a big deal out of the additional highline payments for ODTA. As there is so much Perth flying to be covered they get a higher payment for being at home. In return they have agreed to give away a guaranteed payment for all pilots that covered required courseware on the Ipad. Hence my paraphrase.
Originally Posted by Lookleft
The integrity of the negotiating team was discredited when they threw the dead cat on the table that is the IPA. The thing about overnights is that a lot of pilots don't want them, after all Jetstar was supposed to be all about not having to overnight. So why would you build up the allowance for overnights? Why wouldn't you actually try and negotiate an increase in an allowance that all pilots receive instead of getting rid of it all together? Other than the 3% (which they also didn't negotiate) all the rest of it is made up of assumptions about what pilots may or may not do. The one allowance that is guaranteed they got rid of. A good weathervane of intent is the F/O's attitude to the IPA. No one I have flown with recently has stated an intention to vote for it. It seems strange to me that the one Union that led the charge on PIA before there was an agreement is now leading the charge on accepting an agreement with all the talk of "grounded planes at Christmas" vanishing into thin air like pixie dust.
Gee lookleft, you sound like one of those ignorant and irrelevant AIPA negotiators. Here’s a lesson in the BOOT. Any “guaranteed payment for all pilots” or what you call the IPA (iPad Agreement) will reduce what the AIPA muppets call the “BOOT BOOST” in their latest update. So if the iPad payment was kept, it would reduce the award compliance payment by the same amount – about 1.5%. By moving it as the AFAP did, they have increased the award compliance by 1.5%, and funded something else worth at least 1.5%, so a net increase of 3% from the initial position.

If you idiots can’t do basic math or understand how the award works, you should leave it to the people who can. Straight up, AIPA would negotiate a position that is 3% worse. Increases in layover payments including highline and ODTA are a very smart thing as the fleet plan for Jetstar includes 18LR’s and 20 XLR’s. Only a moron would think there are not going to be additional overnights with that fleet.

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