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Old 20th Aug 2022, 10:50
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hotspare16
 
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Originally Posted by EUops
Could someone provide a rough total of yearly income for FO, including per diems, bonuses etc?

Also, what is the average time to command?
Income is a combination of the below:

Base Salary
Year 1 FO: €58500. After 2 years increases to €66300 - Important to remember this is the base starting salary and increases inline with inflation. E.g. I started in December and received a 5.5% increase for last year. The year 2 salary increase was also adjusted for inflation.

Productivity Pay - Paid the following Feb’
Based on block hours flown. Works on a matrix depending on fleet/hours etc but on the Latitude (and XLS) fleet we get 25% more per hour than Challenger, Global & Falcon fleets and the Phenom fleet gets 50% more!
As an idea…
250 hours = €16k
350 hours = €30k
400 hours = €36k
450 hours = €43k


Per diems
€70 per day, expect to earn these against 178 duty days ( deducting leave) = €12.4k pa.
UK have a portion of this taxed.

Tour Based Pay
This is quite complicated but basically and should this continue, you apply for it and if accepted (everyone was this year) you earn a minimum of €105 per hour for every hour flown over 9.1 based on a 6 day tour.
This is the minimum amount that can be earned. Threshold to earn it is adjusted depending on length of your.
Paid in the following months salary. E.g. On a 19 block hour tour, over 6 days, you make an extra €1050 for that tour. It’s hard to say how much extra you can make here but some guys are pulling big numbers. Tour based pay has it’s controversy as it could be argued this creates a drive to fly versus fatigue etc. That’s another debate though.
As someone mentioned earlier, there is also no control over the hours you will fly per tour. Some could be busy (often in summer) and others quiet.

In addition to the above you can earn more by offering days off and extending a tour, or going above the 60 duty hour limit (they can only get you home if you agree this) and a few other bits and bobs here and there.

If you take out Tour Based Pay and work on a Year 1 initial base salary of €58500 with no inflation adjustments + 350 hours flying pa + per diems. Around €100,000 p.a. More for Phenom, less for Falcon, Challenger and Global.

Time to command
Hard to say, but the talk is with so much movement, fleet expansions continuing, upcoming retirements (alot in the coming years) and natural attrition, around 5/6 years? Let’s see what the next hurdle aviation is about to face and the effects it will inevitably bring.

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