(cross-posted to with #82, reply to
Vokes55 )
Easy on the wiser colleagues, man. Your passionate engagement may come across as being p(r)icky with the argument in some jurisdictions. It's natural for each of us to defend the way we have personally been trained, stay mindful it goes both ways.
Those skilled enough to be
flying a raw data, A/T off departure in a busy airspace with low level offs, tight turns, stepped climbs and speed restrictions
are superior pilots to those who cannot.
Nobody ever said it was a superior decision to self-train yourself for it in London, NYC or Beijing airspace, nor to be showing it off over there. On the contrary.