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Old 23rd Jun 2021, 09:41
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A post from the 5th of May;

"With the currently lack of crew, and the significant demand, the only option for them is to overwork the current pilots and CC, this will result in the exhaustion of the current workforce they have; resulting the the frustration and 'loss' (leave) of those who they currently have. Making the gap between the 'availability of crew' to 'demand of crew' bigger resulting in more over worked and more leaving increasing the gap even more. ( Negative feedback loop)?

desertdog "Very well said. I couldn't have written it better. Me as FO I can confirm everything you said. I was worried about my job at the beginning of the pandemic. Now? Now I don't care anymore and if I get fired I'll be glad someone made the decision for me. I'm incredibly tired, I'm just surviving on flights from lack of rest. Sometimes I'm so tired I'd rather just do paperwork and have no interest in flying. Constant fluster from poor communication and bad decisions by our management. I do the bare minimum just to make the flight safe and not have to explain anything in the office and the rest I don't really, really care. Now I look at my roster I just want to cry. A roster that is only legal in Qatar, according to EASA or FAA my license should have been suspended a long time ago. No chance to be home, see my folks and do perfectly normal things. I'm just flying, fighting fatigue, locked in a hotel room with no way to get out and eating economy food from plastic boxes."

The downfall of Qatar has started already. Personally I do not know desertdog but I can tell you that; if he is given the opportunity to get another flying job in another region of the world, there is a good chance he/she will take it. Factors he/she may consider if he/she is considering leaving;

Cost of living
Benefits
Possible upgrades (fleet/ctp/sfo)
Salary
Lifestyle
Rostering
Seniority

Now, QA is a company that can boast of some good things; from right to left seat tends to be quick [but not the only airline that is quick e.g. easyjet, skywest, etc] but regional vs international it is quick.

Look at the factors listed above... most places/companies anywhere else would be better than qa on these aspects.... ok their salary will be better, but you've worked here and made the money already...

Does qa think people will not consider these things? Look at the way their staff is treated... it is rubbish! I have some mates on the 777 and they are sooo fatigued and are begging for some rest.. BEGGING! Expect it to only get worse... you guys are in for some serious sheeet....

From what is going around the table and the forums;

boeing is coming back heavily. I believed it was all the boeing pilots back, but apparently not... we got a few on the forum here who are not as fortunate... 777kicker & Huw Jorgan sorry to hear guys.... as you rightly mentioned, some criteria for their stupid 'lists' that no one knows how it is produced. Must be just whose face they like. But guys do keep in contact with each other and hit me a message... I would like to see how this will unfold. Are there any more boeing qa pilots who have not been called back? Reason why i am asking, i personally know of junior guys who are back in doha now... so most people should have been back aswell.

330/380 almost every month or 2 revaluations of bringing back the 380 are in talks... and it starts of as YES YES YES but then dies down to a noo... nooo.. nooooo.... glad to see they have finally decided to call back those guys... i know of some 380 not sooo senior guys who have been called back... and i personally believe that 330 guys should not be thrown away... as mentioned by someone above... they begged people to go on the 330, just to keep the fleet alive until they are able to burn the fleet and transfer them to something else... pandemic came and they took the biggest cut... QUESTION; are all 330 guys back? are all 380 guys back? It seems the narrative now is to transfer them to 777 only [ previously it was 777 and 350] but 350 [personally] i find is a dying fleet. Can people flying 350 tell me how your hours are looking this and next month?

always a big thanks to SandPilot350 for posting the best of the best! I came here today to talk about the transfers to 777 but you handled it already! All this is true... last week thursday airbus pilots had to submit an answer to if they will move to boeing and if not...why... how childish qa... but this is to show the SERIOUS demand on the 777. Cargo still cannot fulfil the contracts made while [as mentioned] the pilots are exhausted! but this will free space on the airbus fleets encouraging the airline to rehire guys on 350 and 320...350 hires FINALLY!

March 21 was the last influx of 320 rehires... the idea of 320 rehires are ONLY form inside doha is incorrect... they brought back people from outside but MAJORITY are from inside. If i am correct it is under 20 guys who rejoined... I would actually believe the number is less... prob 10.. cannot mention the 320 without mentioning the MPL. I have heard both stories that high hour MPL guys were asked to come back, but also heard that no MPLs were called... can you MPL guys clarify this? additionally talks about MPLs within doha have/have not been called... are there MPL cadets still in doha unemployed? I was made to believe every pilot in the airline is either working or have gone home, that NO unemployed pilots (MPL or non MPL) are still in qatar... The last batch of MPLs was fired in Feb/March2021 [ 1st batch i believe was April/July2020]... are any of them still here?

Salaries...

Who here can confirm their salaries? Both talks are being thrown around... most recently I heard that qatari law would not allow difference in salaries for the same job. Someone with S# 123 cannot work for more than someone with S#1234 {ignoring yearly increases, etc.} basically all should have the 23 FO,etc salaires regardless. But now i am seeing that there are guys who are coming back and THEIR CONTRACT IS LESS THAN 23xxxx? WTF?

Keep posting guys, keep asking, keep'em coming!
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