Originally Posted by
10JQKA
Currently u can go underneath in G at A070 and get tfc info and sort each other out
What advantage do you have sitting in the aircraft looking at the inside of a cloud that allows you to "sort each other out" when ATC can't? Of course, if you can visually separate it is different, but the assumption is that if you want to visually separate you switch to VFR and have appropriate cloud clearance requirements etc.
Originally Posted by
10JQKA
This has nothing to do with who does a better job of separating or that G ops are without standards, both of these assumptions are wrong as these consequences are because of poor airspace design proposal.
What are the separation standards for aircraft in IMC in class G? Who determines if they have been breached?
I agree that this proposal is poor. Basically it is typical Australian Class E - maximum inconvenience, minimum usefulness. Class E should be providing service to IFR aircraft. Instead this seems to be inconveniencing VFR aircraft, without providing separation services to IFR aircraft where they need it most: close to airports, i.e low level, in the approach.