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Old 21st Mar 2021, 04:25
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andrewr, re yr....

"This idea that ATC would cause delays keeps recurring. What it means is that either pilots do a better job of separating aircraft in IMC than ATC do (which I do not believe), or that class G operations operate without standards on a basis of "if no-one saw it, it didn't happen".

Disagree, have a look at an example of the airspace below R559 between RIC/NBR. Currently u can go underneath in G at A070 and get tfc info and sort each other out, but in the proposed E base A065 it is now CTA, so given u can't go up or down or in wx may not be able to take headings L or R or hold what would happen is effectively 1 in 1 out. So the 1st user gets the run at A070 and everybody else goes around the airspace. For example someone planning to go BK to points north like TW MOR etc now has to go around via MDG or via SGT as the DCT A070 OCTA route is no longer avbl. That means delays due more track miles, more fuel used and longer flight times. This is just 1 example. This has nothing to do with who does a better job of separating or that G ops are without standards, both of these assumptions are wrong as these consequences are because of poor airspace design proposal.

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