Originally Posted by
Fl1ingfrog
avoiding and the recovery from the stall by the pilot is not possible when the automation is preventing it or, indeed, is the cause.
Huh?? Are there any accidents where the airplane stalled because of a failure of the autopilot disconnect button?
The error has often been the pilot pushing the wrong button.
OK, so that's the purview of basically the entire rest of airline training. Using your SA and automation monitoring and inputs to keep the airplane on track is of course one element of "preventing" upsets. Given that this sometimes fails, shouldn't the remaining channels of prevention, and
any of the channels of recovery, also be addressed?
The training managers of airlines that I have spoken to did not see the value of throwing their pilots about in a Extra 300 as being useful.
I think the opinion of airline managers is a pretty poor measure of the value or usefulness of doing this.