Cat, you're still reading things into my posts that I did not write, nor I think did anyone. No-one suggested we should have things easy, in fact I think feeling they have to work for no remuneration is fairly hard. Don't attack me - I'm not the one working for free, my services come in at £25 per hour if you want to learn anything. I am currently a self-employed tutor, not a working pilot.. .. .Restating your position without supporting argument and stating that the converation is over does not constitute a successful defence of your position.