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Old 30th Aug 2020, 03:06
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Originally Posted by Magpie32
Just received my licence however my SEP date is incorrect (they only gave me a 1 year rating - I thought it was 2?) and they changed my IR date which was already on my licence before CPL application!!!!
So it makes transferring to IAA irrelevant for me as it will be another few weeks for the CAA to correct.


You might be better off proceeding with the transfer process in spite of these mistakes. Like all competent authorities the IAA only requires that you have at least one valid aircraft rating or equivalent privileges and a valid medical certificate to begin the transfer [and one valid aircraft rating before the licence will be issued]. The UK CAA requires a (certified) copy of your licence to be submitted electronically with SRG2150. A certified copy of the licence will be required by the state to which the transfer will be made. NB: https://www.caa.co.uk/General-aviati...nts-certified/

Certified copies of licences
You need to provide a copy of your licence for all licensing applications.

If you have had any ratings signed up on your licence, you will need to provide a certified copy of your licence.
If your licence is as issued by the CAA (there are no handwritten additions to your licence) you can send us a photocopy of your licence.


The IAA deadline of 4th September is for applicants needing licences transferred before the end of the year. Applications received by IAA after that deadline but before the end of the year should (!) still be processed albeit with the licence issued in early 2021. There doesn't seem to be a clear or uniform policy on whether a change of state of issue must be completed by the end of the year where the application has been. For example the Swedish Transport Agency, in contrast to Austro Control, will provide you with a temporary certificate conferring licence privileges if required whilst awaiting the conclusion of the transfer process. Clearly that provision is for operating Swedish aircraft after the end of the year, in other words, as I understand it Sweden will not pull the drawbridge up if the licence transfer process has not been completed in time. When I spoke with Kiwa in the Netherlands a fortnight ago I was told an application for a change of state from UK could be made up until the end of the year. In your position I would treat the matter with urgency and begin sending forms forthwith. That means do them today not next weekend. It can take two to three months for medical records to be transferred. The licence records will then be transferred in about a fortnight. Those transfers are done sequentially rather than concurrently. Any changes you make to your licence in the mean time, such as the variation or addition of a rating, would need to be notified to the new authority which can request an updated Standard Document 155 from the originating authority to verify the latest licence details. The fee payable to the new authority for the transfer of licensing records should (does in the case of IAA) include any variation or addition of a rating/certificate in case you want the new authority to make the licence endorsement. If endorsements are needed after the licence has been issued then additional fees will apply.

The basic fee for transferring a CPL to IAA is 450 EUR. See appendix to schedule 21 in the Irish Aviation Authority Fees Order, 2015 (link). I've found the personnel licensing office at IAA to be extremely helpful however its policy on examiner endorsements deserves considering. Most examiners cannot endorse an IAA licence to renew an expired rating or certificate. Those that can must be both operating within an IAA ATO and specifically approved by IAA. In all other cases the IAA makes the endorsement and reissues the licence, levying a fee in the process. This policy is explained in IAA Personnel Licensing Advisory Memorandum (PLAM) 017 (link, pdf link). Similar details for other MSs can be found in the EASA Examiner Differences Document at https://www.easa.europa.eu/ by navigating to EASA Pro > Domains > Aircrew & Medical > Flight Crew Licensing—then see downloads at the bottom.

Licence and medical records transfer fees are broadly similar across the MSs. Sweden levies an annual fee (årsavgift) of 900 SEK on CPL holders. See pp 30–31 in the consolidated version of TSFS 2016:105 (link, pdf link), incorporating amendment TSFS 2019:125. The medical records transfer fee is 2 200 SEK (~ 190 GBP). The flight crew licensing records transfer fee is 400 SEK for a PPL or 2 200 SEK for a CPL/ATPL. The personnel licensing office takes calls Mon–Wed 09:00–11:00 (local) but responds quickly to email. The forms for transferring to Sweden are L-1835 for licensing records (link) and L-1873 for medical records (link). Both can be filed electronically. All the Nordic states accept forms by email.

Denmark has no annual fee but charges 1 560 DKK (~ 190 GBP) for the transfer of medical records and bills the transfer of licence records at a rate of 780 DKK/hour. Expect two hours. See tables 1A, 4M, and 4E for fee details in the annex to TBST's Executive Order nr 1335 (link). See application to change the competent authority to Denmark (link, pdf link) and the application for the transfer of medical records between medical sections of licensing authorities (link, pdf link). Both can be filed electronically. Note that examiners approved by other than Denmark cannot endorse a Danish licence in respect of a rating that has expired by more than three years, but this is hardly a deciding factor for most.

Can't comment on Norway other than to note that the licence records transfer fee is 3 280 NOK (~ 280 GBP). See BSL (bestemmelser for sivil luftfart) A 1-2, § 34(2) (link). The fee for transferring the medical records appears to be 1 590 NOK, § 42 (3)(f). A consolidated application form and instructions are available in English here (link).

The Icelandic Transport Authority (Samgöngustofa) publishes flight crew licensing forms here (link). Use form LF-355 application for change of competent authority (pdf link) and form LF-355b application form for the transfer of medical records (pdf link). From the main fees (gjaldskrar) page (link) see gjaldskrá Samgöngustofu nr. 338/2015 then select the link next to the PDF icon, or try here (pdf link). The licence and medical transfer fees appear to be items 1.1.43 and 1.1.70 levied at 25 010 ISK (~ 140 GBP) and 2 670 ISK respectively, although the additional rate of 10 210 ISK/hour at item 1.1.71 might apply.

The licence transfer fee for Finland appears to be 400 EUR from point 2.3.1 in the decree on transport service fees no 472/2020 (link, pdf link). The application form appears to be a generic one (link).

Austria charges broadly similar transfer fees: see TP (Tarifposten) 7 in the third column of the fees schedule (link, pdf link). Kiwa in the Netherlands charges 660-something EUR and offers an expedited processing service for an additional 25 per cent (link).

The personnel licensing offices in all of these states communicate perfectly well in English. Most rank in the top ten countries worldwide in the Corruption Perceptions Index (link). Remember to fill in the UK CAA forms also at https://www.caa.co.uk/Commercial-ind...licence-issue/ Good luck!

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