Cat Driver, I recommend you read my previous posts. I made it quite clear that my choice when I finished the course and there were no jobs available was to work elsewhere. I have merely been pointing out here that working for free in "apprenticeship" or internship is not just acceptible but perfectly normal practice in many industries, and even in parts of the aviation industry, and that from their point of view these people are not working for free.. .. .For years people have taken sponsorship with a 2-year lock in to instruct as part of the deal. With the pay of instructors I find that a worse deal for the individual, butI have never seen it criticised. What I see a the basis of the criticism is not concern for the dignity of the individuals concerned, but professional pilots worried about the effect on their jobs.. . . . <small>[ 18 March 2002, 13:30: Message edited by: Send Clowns ]</small>