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+TSRA
Four things:...
+TSRA, firstly thank you for your, albeit quite judgemental, reply.
I don’t know why you are assuming I don’t already work for an airline? You know what they say when you assume...? I also don’t appreciate being judged to be in the same bracket as your “students” and I think you would agree (if you really are a teacher/instructor as your post presumes) that you should not conjecture my flying skills before even knowing the slightest thing about me.
The point about being “spoon-fed” and that I haven’t done my “research”...clearly
you haven’t read those websites as they OBVIOUSLY show different pay scales for every year! BOTH OF THEM! My question was completely valid and I take great offense to, basically, being called lazy. PPRuNe is always my last point of call when the answer is not found elsewhere. And I am glad to say I don’t have to think about the money too much. Unfortunately it is a necessity in this day and age to help a family get by and so having some prior information to enable a family to plan in advance is usually quite helpful. However, I agree with what you say lower down in your post that things could, and will likely change, in the very near future, but we can still form an educated guess from the current situation. Don’t you agree?
With regards again to the $54k / $42k salaries, again these salaries don’t provide any info whether they are before tax / after tax, whether they are just a base salary or a mix of base, flight pay, allowances, OT bonuses etc. I completely understand your concern for people breaking their contracts. If they have a confidentiality agreement, then I am sure each person is competent and capable enough to make up their own minds if they want to disseminate information. I am not holding a gun to anyone’s head. I simply asked for information from some people who may or may not know. If no one is willing to share said information, then so be it. I won’t lose sleep over it.
Regarding the 80 hours a month, thank you for this point. I did not know this and I have taken it on board. Where I work, 80 hours a month is below average flight hours (obviously pre-COVID) for most people. So I based it on that, but it was a best guess with the information I had at the time. I will use 70 hours in future as a more conservative estimate. Thank you.
I am both amazed and frustrated that I had to explain myself because you made a few ill-placed assumptions about someone from a simple question they asked. I get the impression you have been offended by my question, by the way you have responded to me. If I have offended you, I apologise. But please heed my advice not to make such assumptions in future.
As for an answer to my question, even though you have not provided a conclusive answer, I will take from your post that the FO pay is fixed at somewhere around $50k/y gross (before tax) for the first few years (contradicting the aforementioned websites).