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Old 16th Aug 2020, 03:00
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Progress Wanchai
 
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Originally Posted by Speed Weasel
Has anyone that wants to scrap ARAPA realized that any new contract comes with age 65 retirement?

What do you think that does to upgrade times in a shrinking airline?

We should all be hoping people get to stay on COS 99 and leave at 55.
I’m not sure everyone quite understands what the current arrangements are. Certainly the original poster is confused.


ARAPA has been gone for three years now and is highly unlikely to ever be negotiated again or put to a vote to ratify an agreement over the housing allowance. Obviously the company still pays an allowance though as this is a contractural requirement to comply with the Accommodation and Rental Assistance clause.

I can only assume the original poster was referring to this payment when he made reference to ARAPA. In order for the company to cease this payment they’d be required to offer new contracts to eligible COS99 and COS08 crew. It’s arguable that the issue of a productivity based payment system has actually been a higher priority than any other aspect of our contracts, so it’s highly likely that if the company did offer new contracts that they won’t change one aspect of it but many. Not just productivity and housing but provident fund, CEA, payment increments, leave, seniority, list mergers, recruitment policy in regards to DEFO/DEC, etc. as well as adjusting non contractural allowances such as HKPA.

It’s also highly likely that it won’t be just one pilot group offered a new contract, but everyone within the group. The pain will be shared, although not equally. Until we see the devil in the detail we really have no idea of the effect it will have on individuals or if it will result in lifestyle adjustments.


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